After doing some research I decided that it would not really be any more risky to get one while ttc than not so I decided that I wanted to get a tattoo of a Kokpelmana, a fertility deity. I went to Your Design or Mine in Lexington where my cousin had gotten a couple of tattoos and told them Mr TCI and I have been struggling with infertility for 3 1/2 years and I told them I was hoping she would bring me some good luck and karma to help overcome our battle. This sparked a conversation among the couple who own the shop and their son (who did my tattoo) as well as the other artist and another woman (the other artist's girlfriend? Wife? Maybe she worked there too?). The conversation consisted of how much trouble kids were, how once I had kids I would change my mind and wonder why I ever wanted "the rascals", how glad they were they weren't having kids, how lucky the kid was that he was the only one among his friends to not have any kids, etc.
I was annoyed but let it slide. Later I decided to let them know how I felt, hopefully it would give them pause for thought. I know many people who haven't dealt with infertility don't really know how to respond and automatically want to lighten the mood. Unfortunately joking such as this is more hurtful than helpful, a heartfelt or even cursory "Sorry you are going through this" or "Good luck" is a much more appreciated response. I know that I let stuff like this mostly slide but that many women battling infertility are much more hurt than I and if I can help educate people on giving constructive responses when they hear of women struggling, it can help others to do so even if it doesn't bother me all that much beyond minor annoyance. So sparked the following exchange which sent me down the path from slightly annoyed customer to royally pissed off customer.
Michelle wrote:
Hey guys thanks for the great tattoo I got today from Scotty Jr, supervised by Scotty Sr. I did have one comment. You guys were very friendly and I am EXTREMELY happy with my tattoo but I wasn’t very pleased about the response to the meaning behind my tattoo, which is hopefully to give me some good karma in overcoming my battle with infertility. The comments regarding not wanting “the rascals” once I have children and such were quite hurtful since right now I am putting everything I have on the line to become a mother. In the future you guys might be a touch more sensitive to people struggling with something, a simple “Sorry you are going through this” or even “Hope it helps, good luck” would have been a lot nicer than joking about how much you guys are glad it's not you trying to have kids because you don’t want them or whatever. But seriously thanks for the tattoo, I am very happy with it.Your Design or Mine replied:
Michelle
im sorry you took it that way we were just trying to make you smile and lighted the struggle you are having….maybe you should lighten up a bit and just let god lead the way …your friends in ink …pam and scotty----
Michelle replied:
Lighten up? Well I was only slightly stung and irked because I knew you guys didn’t mean to be hurtful and was just trying to give you a heads up in how you could be more sensitive in the future. But it is very poor customer service when someone gives you feedback and you further make light of their situation by belittling them.Your Design or Mine replied:
well we are sorry we hurt you but maybe you are right ?? so perhaps you should find another shop and stop taking your problems out on others…
Company information:
Your Design or Mine
http://www.yourdesignormine.com/
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Your-Design-Or-Mine/120493721307820
1993 Harrodsburg Road, Lexington, KY 40503
859-278-1631
The review I have left them on as many of the review sites as I have been able to find...
I had been recommended this shop and have a close relative get work here done years ago with great results so I went to them for my tattoo. They were very friendly but were a bit insensitive to the struggle I was going through that my tattoo was representative of so later that evening I sent them a polite email to let them know how happy I was with my tattoo but that their unintentional insensitivity had stung a bit. I got an email back telling me to “lighten up”. I emailed again saying I was just trying to give them a heads up on how they could be a little more sensitive to their customers and received back an email telling me to find another shop for future work and “quit taking my problems out on others”. Nice customer service. If this is how they react to polite constructive criticism I would hate to see their response to a truly irate customer.
It gets even better! After sharing this story on The Crunchy Infertile's Facebook page, on some fertility forums and on my own Facebook wall, I have had several people tell me they have sent the company emails or left them reviews as well. One person has reported back their own horrific email response from them. She is contacting the BBB and has expressed interest in organizing a protest (she is also a local person). Here is the exchange between them...
Brittney:
I am really offended by an email responce to a fellow woman with infertility. Infertility is hurtful, just like any other heath problem. You try for a baby like there is no tomorrow. You take the pregnancy test every month and every month it is negative, then when it is positive? You suffer from miscarriage after miscarriage, after miscarriage. There is no way to lighten up when you are putting everything on the line for a child an you cannot have one.. or you cannot keep one alive. When a customer tells you that what was said HURT THEM you should apologize and take responsibility . I am so sorry you guys were blessed with children that you do not want. If you would like to give them up for adoption so that an infertile couple may give them a better life.. one where their new parents would teach them kindness and respect towards others feel free to contact me and we can get the ball rolling!
Your Design or Mine:
IF GOD WANTED YOU TO HAVE KIDS YOU WOULD ...SO DONT HATE ON SOME ONE THAT DOES..FUCK OFF
So now I have gone from wanting to share this story with other infertiles to wanting to make sure as many people as possible know what assholes these people are. To be clear, I don't really care about their opinion. If they want to be such assholes amongst themselves that is fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I find it HIGHLY offensive that they would treat customers this way. So please help make sure everyone knows how little these people care about their customers and potential customers.
Here she is...
Wow! They're crazy, like clinically so. I'm sorry you ran into them. Best of luck with your future family. We struggled for three years and now have FOUR beautiful children.
ReplyDeleteI am so writing them a mail!!! sorry you had to go through this I will let you know about the response I get - anychance of a photo of your tattoo?
ReplyDeleteheres what I wrote
ReplyDeleteTo whom it concerns-
After reading a review about horrid customer service that Michelle and Brittney got I felt I had to write- your reply to each persons emails to you have caused such anger
"IF GOD WANTED YOU TO HAVE KIDS YOU WOULD ...SO DONT HATE ON SOME ONE THAT DOES..FUCK OFF"
You do understand that by saying a simple "Thanks for bringing this to our attention and good luck in your life" would have stopped all of this hurt and anger- maybe you should contact the women and make ammends because as it stands the reviews are not good. and I do think the women that you have been rude too deserve respect if for no other reason then - your running a business.
also if someone came in with cancer would you tell them "if god wanted you to live he wouldnt give you cancer" infertility is a very deeply stressful and heartbreaking thing and women suffering from it are very emotional at the best of times, I suppose it is just about spreading awareness - I knew nothing about infertility until it happened to me and it sucks! and you feel like the world and God are against you-
anyway thats it- I dont wish this to offend anyone or anger anyone I just felt I needed to reply-
Thanking you
kmanderson I know right? Sheesh. Thanks and congrats on your family!
ReplyDeleteThanks Nina, that was a great email. I will add a picture of it although, since it's on my back I haven't been able to get a very good one yet lol.
ReplyDeleteI didn't exactly 'struggle' with infertility.. We were lucky enough that after some lifestyle changes, we conceived our first quite by accident after nearly two years of not using birth control (but not exactly trying, either). I didn't know how much I wanted to be a mother until my son was born. They are not more trouble than they are worth. My son has changed the very definition of who I am as a person, and I'm happy about that. I absolutely hate the mentality people like this take that kids are just burdens. My son is not a burden.
ReplyDeletePeople like this suck for just being people like this. And they suck even more for letting their suckiness overflow onto those around them, regardless of what feelings they might hurt. It really seems like "Sorry we hurt your feelings, we were trying to lighten the mood and didn't realize our actions were so insensitive" is a far more appropriate response. What a bunch of jerks.
"IF GOD WANTED YOU TO HAVE KIDS YOU WOULD ...SO DONT HATE ON SOME ONE THAT DOES..FUCK OFF"
ReplyDeleteWOW!! That right there tells me everything I need to know about those people. I'm sorry you had to go through that with them, Michelle. What jerks.